Saw you at FiLiA Julie and was going to come over and tell you what a fan I am, but you were busy getting livid about what an absolute maze of confusion the Brighton Centre is. I decided it probably wasnt the time,but under my breath I was like "legend". X
A good discussion on alcohol misuse, and alcoholism.
Every woman's experience is different, and every solution is unique, too.
Alcohol is a heavy duty drug. It disinhibits and acts as a central nervous system depressant but also affects the whole body in so many ways. Society has normalised its use. For the last four decades, multi-drug use had become increasingly common which often complicates everything. Clinical help in dealing with this may be essential.
There are a few paths to recovery, and TSM is one worth exploring. The only thing I would add is that it's useful to have a support/peer group in your recovery. It is quite difficult to recover alone. Katie acknowledged that, too. Being in a community is one of the benefits of AA and other self-help groups. Although AA is a 12 Step program it gives people freedom to relate that to their own experience. It is not for everyone, however, and works by attraction, not promotion.
Thanks, Katie. I'll get the Kindle version of your book. I'm sure your publisher will promote It appropriately as well. It needs to be reviewed in health journals as well as mainstream media.
Not sold on the "trauma" model either to explain every addiction. Know plenty of people who just enjoy their drug of choice without having had bad experiences in their past. Therapy can work for the right person, at the right time, with the right therapy.
The best answer that I would give to the Dilezza question in Canada, would be to say that you are uncomfortable about talking about personal things at work. The issue is boundaries. Keep it neutral.
Great episode, 3 of my favorite people in one (virtual) room.
Just finished reading Katie's book a few days ago and can really recommend it. Not a drinker myself, but it is still an interesting/funny/touching read, also about growing up, leaving your bad habits behind and some lesbian drama...
I think there's an agnostic group within AA, if the spiritual part is the issue. I quit drinking 5 years ago, albeit without following a program, and it was hands down the best thing I ever did for myself. But there are all sorts of follow-on effects to quitting I can see people needing extra guidance to get through that organized programs can help with. I'm in a sober socializing group, and many of the women there like She Recovers, it might also be an option to look into. I'd really recommend quitting if it becomes even the slightest nuisance in your life.
And you all are WAY TOO NICE about the workplace harassment. :-) If I didn't want to go through the trouble of reporting it (sounds like the guy needs more training on hostile work environments), I'd start responding with things like "Have you prayed to Jesus about your painful sex?" or "Have you talked to your family about your pedophile inclinations?" until it stopped.
On poppers that is amyl nitrate look up William James he experimented with the nitrates a lot, and in one of his volumes of his experiments, he describes how he was going to be reincarnated as the wife of God.
Oh my god these drugs also can cause terrible havoc on the human body. The side effects are disastrous everything from blindness, stomach paralysis and now they’re talking about some cognitive issues. We have no long-term studies of people shooting themselves up and looking like skeletons with their flesh hanging off looks like they’re wearing a bodysuit that got too big.
The only thing I think about all day sex. And I don’t have sex with other humans, but I know how to pleasure myself and that’s my sex so I guess I’m a self sex addict?
Morphine would be my drug of choice. When I had it after major surgeries, I went into a musical hallucinations that were so incredible. I became a singer I would be a musician, and I understand why musicians become addicted to morphine because what you can hear in the universe is incredible in that state wow but my psychiatrist told me the best one I ever had. It’s all locked up within you or you couldn’t feel it at all.😘
I’ve had lots of therapists, but only two psychiatrists one female one male they both told me the same thing. Basically wow Marcie the fact that you’ve survived is amazing if you don’t feel like you need any drugs, you don’t have to be on any, but yeah, we understand what you’re saying and you just have to ride with the ups and downs. Call us if you need us, but you really don’t need us. Very simple. I always start with psychiatry they’re much better than any therapist.
Oh, you youngster so nostalgic for the past. I have no regrets about the past and I do not miss it at all. I sometimes examine it to understand what I’ve become but damn I’m really happy at 76 and I may only have about 10 more years more on this planet
I’m sure I’ve had trauma in my life, but I control my drinking. I rarely have more than two drinks and usually not more than one you see my parents were alcoholics. They were functional alcoholics never missed a day of work, but my father still beat the shit out of my mother, so I know how bad alcohol can be. You have to learn to be to control. I’m a good hippie from the 60/70s. I did a lot of experiments with psychedelics but you break your brain you can’t play with it again so be careful out the women.
Not sure if one should write a book about a personal experience claiming to hold the key to saving lives, even if that person is a lesbian. One of those episodes that makes me question the use of my time.
I was wondering why you had alcohol problems/addiction as a subject for the Lesbian Project Podcast. Was it just because a lesbian had written a book about it, or do you think alcoholism is a particular issue for lesbians? Or neither of those reasons? Thank you, Mags.
Saw you at FiLiA Julie and was going to come over and tell you what a fan I am, but you were busy getting livid about what an absolute maze of confusion the Brighton Centre is. I decided it probably wasnt the time,but under my breath I was like "legend". X
Okay, look if you have a guest, it should be video not just audio. I guess Kath's and Julie's expressions, but not new people. Whos with me?
A good discussion on alcohol misuse, and alcoholism.
Every woman's experience is different, and every solution is unique, too.
Alcohol is a heavy duty drug. It disinhibits and acts as a central nervous system depressant but also affects the whole body in so many ways. Society has normalised its use. For the last four decades, multi-drug use had become increasingly common which often complicates everything. Clinical help in dealing with this may be essential.
There are a few paths to recovery, and TSM is one worth exploring. The only thing I would add is that it's useful to have a support/peer group in your recovery. It is quite difficult to recover alone. Katie acknowledged that, too. Being in a community is one of the benefits of AA and other self-help groups. Although AA is a 12 Step program it gives people freedom to relate that to their own experience. It is not for everyone, however, and works by attraction, not promotion.
Thanks, Katie. I'll get the Kindle version of your book. I'm sure your publisher will promote It appropriately as well. It needs to be reviewed in health journals as well as mainstream media.
Not sold on the "trauma" model either to explain every addiction. Know plenty of people who just enjoy their drug of choice without having had bad experiences in their past. Therapy can work for the right person, at the right time, with the right therapy.
The best answer that I would give to the Dilezza question in Canada, would be to say that you are uncomfortable about talking about personal things at work. The issue is boundaries. Keep it neutral.
Great episode, 3 of my favorite people in one (virtual) room.
Just finished reading Katie's book a few days ago and can really recommend it. Not a drinker myself, but it is still an interesting/funny/touching read, also about growing up, leaving your bad habits behind and some lesbian drama...
I think there's an agnostic group within AA, if the spiritual part is the issue. I quit drinking 5 years ago, albeit without following a program, and it was hands down the best thing I ever did for myself. But there are all sorts of follow-on effects to quitting I can see people needing extra guidance to get through that organized programs can help with. I'm in a sober socializing group, and many of the women there like She Recovers, it might also be an option to look into. I'd really recommend quitting if it becomes even the slightest nuisance in your life.
And you all are WAY TOO NICE about the workplace harassment. :-) If I didn't want to go through the trouble of reporting it (sounds like the guy needs more training on hostile work environments), I'd start responding with things like "Have you prayed to Jesus about your painful sex?" or "Have you talked to your family about your pedophile inclinations?" until it stopped.
On poppers that is amyl nitrate look up William James he experimented with the nitrates a lot, and in one of his volumes of his experiments, he describes how he was going to be reincarnated as the wife of God.
Oh my god these drugs also can cause terrible havoc on the human body. The side effects are disastrous everything from blindness, stomach paralysis and now they’re talking about some cognitive issues. We have no long-term studies of people shooting themselves up and looking like skeletons with their flesh hanging off looks like they’re wearing a bodysuit that got too big.
The only thing I think about all day sex. And I don’t have sex with other humans, but I know how to pleasure myself and that’s my sex so I guess I’m a self sex addict?
Morphine would be my drug of choice. When I had it after major surgeries, I went into a musical hallucinations that were so incredible. I became a singer I would be a musician, and I understand why musicians become addicted to morphine because what you can hear in the universe is incredible in that state wow but my psychiatrist told me the best one I ever had. It’s all locked up within you or you couldn’t feel it at all.😘
I’ve had lots of therapists, but only two psychiatrists one female one male they both told me the same thing. Basically wow Marcie the fact that you’ve survived is amazing if you don’t feel like you need any drugs, you don’t have to be on any, but yeah, we understand what you’re saying and you just have to ride with the ups and downs. Call us if you need us, but you really don’t need us. Very simple. I always start with psychiatry they’re much better than any therapist.
Oh, you youngster so nostalgic for the past. I have no regrets about the past and I do not miss it at all. I sometimes examine it to understand what I’ve become but damn I’m really happy at 76 and I may only have about 10 more years more on this planet
I’m sure I’ve had trauma in my life, but I control my drinking. I rarely have more than two drinks and usually not more than one you see my parents were alcoholics. They were functional alcoholics never missed a day of work, but my father still beat the shit out of my mother, so I know how bad alcohol can be. You have to learn to be to control. I’m a good hippie from the 60/70s. I did a lot of experiments with psychedelics but you break your brain you can’t play with it again so be careful out the women.
Not sure if one should write a book about a personal experience claiming to hold the key to saving lives, even if that person is a lesbian. One of those episodes that makes me question the use of my time.
I was wondering why you had alcohol problems/addiction as a subject for the Lesbian Project Podcast. Was it just because a lesbian had written a book about it, or do you think alcoholism is a particular issue for lesbians? Or neither of those reasons? Thank you, Mags.